Core Duo vs. G5

At the heart of today's comparison are two processors, Intel's Core Duo and IBM's PowerPC 970FX, otherwise known as the G5.

Johan did a great job of classifying the G5 as virtually the best of both worlds, a very wide superscalar CPU that is also very deeply pipelined. While these characteristics give the G5 a fairly competitive performance profile, they also make it quite power hungry (particularly the pipeline depth). But thanks to still being stuck with a small 512KB L2 cache, the G5 only weighs in at a meager 58 million transistors with the 90nm die taking up 66 mm2.

The Core Duo, on the other hand, is composed of 151.6 million transistors, 2.6x the number of transistors in the G5. But because it was built on Intel's 65nm process, the die size is still quite reasonable at 90.24 mm2. Most importantly, the Core Duo is based on a very power optimized mobile architecture, so it should have the power consumption advantage as well.

We have been longing to compare the G5 to x86 processors for a while now, but we've always run into the problem of achieving equal platforms. Thankfully, Apple has two iMacs, one based on the Core Duo and one based on the G5, that are virtually identical, thus facilitating our comparison.

From the end-user's standpoint, it's virtually impossible to tell the G5 from the Core Duo iMac. If you look at the right preference panels or open up the system profiler, it is obvious; but from normal application usage and interaction, the transition is truly seamless (which is very impressive considering that they completely changed CPU architectures).

Obviously, the Core Duo is a dual core processor, while the G5 in the iMac is a single core, so there are inherent performance advantages in that. But one thing that surprised me was the fact that the move from a single to dual core system under OS X wasn't nearly as earth shattering of an experience as it is under Windows. The problem under Windows is that there are so many cases where you run into poor scheduling, which results in a serious reduction in performance on a single core processor, meaning that the move to dual core is quite tangible. But for whatever reason, it's a lot more difficult to tell on the iMacs.

It could be that the OS X scheduler just does a better job, or it could be that the 512MB of memory on these machines was enough of a bottleneck that I couldn't really gauge the improvement in responsiveness, thanks to a dual core machine. My best guess is that it is a combination of both. It's not that you don't notice a benefit when moving to dual core. Rather, it's just that the difference in responsiveness isn't as great as what I was expecting. One other potential reason is that the OS X interface in general isn't particularly responsive, so it may just be that the dual core effect is dulled, thanks to a slower UI (slower compared to Windows that is).

The other thing worth pointing out is that the Core Duo based iMac offers no settings for CPU power consumption. On the iMac G5, you can set processor performance to Automatic, Highest or Reduced, giving the user the option of choosing the balance between power consumption and CPU performance. On the Core Duo based iMac, no such setting exists, presumably because the CPU seems to manage the balance very well on its own. In theory, the G5's Automatic setting should be the same, behaving a lot like Cool'n'Quiet on an AMD system (or EIST on an Intel system). It should barely impact performance by fulfilling CPU demand when necessary and really kicking in during idle or low use periods; the problem is that this isn't always the case.

For the majority of performance tests that I conducted on the iMacs, leaving the G5 set to Automatic actually gave me performance within about 3% of the system's performance if I set the energy saver setting to Highest. However, there were some benchmarks where the iMac incorrectly would not increase CPU frequency in order to accommodate a very high demand task. The best example that I could find was my Quicktime Pro 7 H.264 encoding test (the same test that I actually use in Windows for my CPU reviews). With the G5 running in Automatic mode, the test took over 25 minutes to complete, compared to 9.8 minutes for the Core Duo. Setting the processor performance to Highest, the G5's time dropped down to a more respectable 12.3 minutes, a reduction of more than 50%! The goal of the Automatic processor performance setting should be to crank up CPU frequency when it's needed, and scale it back when it's not. The results that I saw in my Quicktime test show that it fails at that goal in a major way, which isn't acceptable. There were a few other isolated cases where the same was true, forcing me to leave the iMac G5 in its Highest performance state for all of my performance tests.

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  • Illissius - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - link

    Compared to native applications, obviously, it's less than ideal; on the other hand, compared to, say, PearPC, it's pretty amazing. (I don't have any data and haven't tried it myself, but from what I've heard I'd suspect it runs at 5%-ish performance; compared to that, 30-70% is a minor miracle.)
    I know it won't interest the end user any whether it could've been even worse, but wanted to point it out, nonetheless ;).
  • yacoub - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - link

    I wonder how it compares in game- oh, right, Mac. Hehehe ;)
  • DrZoidberg - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - link

    there is one very popular game on mac.

    World of warcraft....could anandtech pls include a benchie comparing mac with intel core duo vs g5 in wow? It would be interesting to see if apple switching to intel means macs are better at games (or not).
  • fitten - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - link

    Is the Universal Binary out for WoW yet?
  • Cusqueno - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - link

    I have a 20" iMac Core Duo and with the default 512 RAM it was bad performance. About 5-10 fps in IronForge and 20-25 elsewhere. When I upgraded to 2 GB RAM it has improved greatly, maybe 10 - 20 in IF and 30 - 40 on the road. I guess this is due to Rosetta using lots of RAM.

    As of last night, there was no Universal binary. But today is patch/reboot day so might be pushed when I get off work. It is supposed to be included with version 1.9.3 according to the WoW forums.
  • fitten - Thursday, February 2, 2006 - link

    That's pretty awesome considering that you're running WoW in emulation (Rosetta).
  • vortmax - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - link

    Seeing that Rosetta is needed for all MS and Adobe apps. and since using Rosetta seems to take lots of memory, it would be nice to see how it runs with 1gb. Also, some benchmarks from Photoshop would be nice :)

    Thanks Anand!
  • Lifted - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - link

    "... but those are the ones we want to measure anyways so they have to be there."
  • Eug - Tuesday, January 31, 2006 - link

    Does turning off one core turn off half the cache?

    ie. Is it really Yonah Core Solo, or is it Yonah Celeron M?
  • maconlysource - Wednesday, February 1, 2006 - link

    Where did you get the toolbar single proc- dual proc utility.
    I installed the developer pkg on my Intel iMac but can't find it?
    Can you email me it?

    Thanks.

    Pete.

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